Posts Tagged ‘Vaccinations’

Vaccination Confusion

Monday, November 16th, 2009

I got some really valid questions from Chris in Pittsburgh, which actually inspired me to write the FAQ on Vaccinations.

I listen to you from Pittsburgh, PA on podcast. I love your program and share your beliefs in dog health, nutrition etc. I have read many of the books written by your guests prior to them coming on your show which makes it very neat to hear them speak.

Exactly what diseases are checked in a titer? And how often should these titers be done on adult dogs? My vet checks distemper and parvo yearly, which costs $100.00. Another vet said parvo titers are not needed on adult dogs because parvo is a puppy disease. If this is the case, I wonder why parvo immunization is given in the mix of all the other immunizations routinely every 3 years. My vet does encourage immunizations, but is agreeable when I say no.

We have 2 shelter adopted dogs:

Redford is a 68 lb male golden retriever and at a guess, approximately 8.5 years old who has been ours for 3.5 yrs. He was a stray with no health history, so the shelter gave 2 sets of immunizations, as is protocol. He has allergies and I did not want to further compromise his immune system, so instead of giving him another round of immunizations as I was supposed to 1 year later, I had titers done and the levels showed he had adequate levels. He has now had distemper and parvo titers checked every year for 3 years, which have all been good. Does he need to continue to get titers every year??

Rosie is a 40 lb female Australian shepherd (someone cut her tail very short, maybe trying to pass her off as a pure Aussie when a puppy…?), Springer spaniel or lab mix is 3.5 yrs old who we have had for 1 year. Last year when her owner turned her in to the shelter, the shelter gave her the normal round of immunization boosters and a 1 year rabies shot. Is there any difference between the 1 year and 3 year rabies shot? She will shortly be due for a rabies booster, since her paperwork states she had the 1 year rabies. When it is time for her immunizations I will titer her also instead of just immunizing her.

I give my dogs Heartgard monthly and Frontline plus as needed. My understanding of flea and tick preventative is that the flea or tick has to bite the dog to get the poison into their system from the dog and then dies. But if the flea or tick is carrying a disease, the dog will be exposed with this bite. The preventive kills fleas or ticks but does not prevent the spread of disease. So why not just remove fleas and ticks from the dog when needed instead of being encouraged by the vets to put the preventive (which is actually poison) on the dogs skin, which gets absorbed into their system? What is the advantage of using the preventive??

I always look forward to your program. Have a good day, Chris

Follow up on Chester the Cat with Hyper-T

Monday, November 16th, 2009

There was an earlier blog posting between Martha in Titusville Pennsylvania and Dr Elizabeth and myself, urging her to take Chester for radioactive iodine treatments. Here was her reply:

Hi Tracie

I did try to get through to you on Cat Chat® but I got disconnected and couldn’t get back on again. Chester, the cat with hyperthyroidism, is doing well with the pills. My vet is very good, but we live in a very rural part of Pennsylvania. The reason I said that Radioactive Iodine treatments wasn’t an option was not the fault of the vet — he is a great vet! He also went to Cornell and is very open to what I tell him about your web site and the information that you give all of us. He will accommodate what I want for my animals. That means I’m not doing the vaccinations except for rabies. He simply doesn’t have the facilities that a bigger city would have. Akron, Ohio was the closest place to go for that treatment which is about 2 hours away… not really reasonable for Chester or me.

I don’t give him “kitty crack” and have been ordering from Pet Food Direct with your discount as well as getting good canned food from Petco. I did want you to know I’m doing what I can in this situation. Chester is heading for 16 years old… and is doing quite well right now with the medication. I wish things would be different, but for now it seems the meds are ok.

I have been on the band wagon about “kitty crack” to all my friends and their families… sometimes it seems that I am a fanatic! I try to do it as nicely as I can but you can’t believe the people that just don’t get it with cats being carnivores. They think that dry food is the only way to go.

I will probably buy many more Cat Bibles and send your message out. Thanks again for your radio programs.

Dear Martha,

I am sorry we came down so hard on you and your wonderful-sounding vet! I guess Dr. Elizabeth and I get frustrated by pet owners not being given all the options. In fact, the only place anybody can get a radioactive iodine treatment to cure their cat’s hyperthyroidism is at a designated clinic for that purpose alone — no normal vet clinic can offer it — so your geographical issue clearly makes it too tough for you. I am sure he will continue just fine on the pills. The only concern is that for some cats the dosage needs to be steadily increased and at some point may no loner be effective but there’s no saying that will happen with Chester. As for your advocacy of wet food only and trying to educate people about “kitty crack” — I am so proud of you and grateful for your attempts — but sometimes just sending them to my website is better than wearing yourself out, making enemies of resistant listeners and then they still stick with the nasty old dry food anyway!

I want you to know that I have a new radio show called DOG TALK® & CAT CHAT® which I hope you’ll start listening to and tell your friends to, also. You can listen to live online at WOR710.com on Saturday nights at 10 PM EST or by podcast the following day at WOR710.com and go to “schedule”, “weekend schedule”, scroll down to my page and at the bottom there is a link to the podcasts.

Tracie

Don’t Vaccinate a Sick Kitten!

Saturday, May 2nd, 2009

Stephanie in New York works for the Martha Stewart company and had a problem with her little one – I was pleased she turned to me for advice. I did write to Dr. Elizabeth Hodgkins, the Official Vet of Cat Chat®, who said my comments were all on-the-money.

Hi Tracie – I was listening to you over the weekend and thought that I needed to ask your opinion. I have a 5 month old Persian/himalayan that has a smooshed face. When I received her a month ago she was sneezing often and would have mucus coming out of her nose. I brought her to the vets for her booster who then put her on antibiotics just in case she had a respiratory infection. She finished the meds 2 wks ago and still is the same. I get nervous because she doesn’t sound like she is breathing well. It’s like she has post nasal drip and when she sneezes she has little boogers on her face. I am so concerned. She gets her 3rd shot this Wed night. What is your opinion?

And she has very drippy eyes – brownish in color when I wipe them.

Hi Stephanie -

I’m really sorry to hear how sick your kitty is – and I appreciate your confidence in my judgment to reach out for support.

I have forwarded your email to the Official vet of CAT CHAT®, Dr. Elizabeth Hodgkins, but there are a couple of things I would say right off the bat.

Your kitten has an upper respiratory infection (URI) – you need to get to a vet with a little more common sense than one who would vaccinate a little cat when her immune system is already being stressed with illness.

I really find this disturbing enough to urge you to find a more thoughtful practitioner — a cats-only vet would be best (links to all-feline practices are on my website under On-Air Tips.)

DO NOT GET ANY FURTHER VACCINATIONS WHILE THE KITTEN IS SICK

This is just common sense that your vet clearly lacks.

And I’m wondering what this “third” vaccination would be, given that kittens have two sets of shots and then I concur with Dr. Hodgkins and others who recommend no more vaccinations, just a year blood test to check immunity levels.

Buy Dr Hodgkins book YOUR CAT tomorrow — it is a sensational book, a complement to mine and much more about medical issues. For example, she recommends using a humidifier with a kitten with a cold — but I’ll let you read for yourself.

Those drippy eyes are a sure sign of URI and you want to get her better ASAP before this becomes a chronic infection

Please let me know what you decide to do – and what I can do to help?

Hang in there!

Tracie

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Changing our Minds about Bordatella Vaccine

Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009

While discussing the Rabies Challenge recently on DOG TALK® with Dr. Ron Schultz who is a specialist in vaccines, he explained in a way I understood for the first time the value of bordatella vaccine for dogs who spend a lot of time around other dogs. A listener (who trains and sometimes boards those dogs) said:

While I was waiting on hold to ask you a question, I listened to your conversation with Dr Schultz about Bordatella vaccinations. I was very interested about it, since I had stopped my kennel practice of requiring Bordetella for clients. Now I’m on the fence again! But your guest made great sense, so I think I will reinstitute the policy. I thank you for the vaccination show! I am looking forward to listening to the show on my iPod.

Not Vaccinating Makes a Cat Healthier

Tuesday, April 7th, 2009

I got this adorable follow-up and also intriguing question about pet insurance:

I hope you are well! I had a blast talking to you in February, after Poochie was named CAT CHAT® Cat of the Month and thank you again for everything (including the treats!). I am pretty sure that Poochie has lost about 2 pounds (making him 15 pounds) since we spoke (!), but I can’t be sure until the vet uses her very accurate scale for him. I’ve been weighing out his Weruva and he is more playful and happy than ever – another reason I think I’m right about the two pound drop. I have attached a couple of recent photos. You can’t tell he’s thinner, but they’re just cute!

I just took out pet insurance for him and Solange and I actually had a question about it. I know how busy you are, so if you can’t let me know via email, maybe you can address it in the show? I used Pets Best (with the discount), as you suggested – my question is basically if I do not vaccinate them anymore (which I don’t want to do!), will this pose a problem for any future claim? I looked at the claim form and it didn’t mention it, but I just wanted to know if you knew for sure that this was not a problem. After listening to you and the vets on Martha Stewart radio, I know that I want to cease and desist on the vaccinations. Again, I know you’re busy. It’s hard for me to call in or I would. I wish you the best and thanks again for all that you do for the kitties!

What a fascinating question! It would never have occurred to me that not vaccinating might make my pets appear more at risk for illness from the point of view of the pet insurance company – except that unnecessary vaccinations of adult pets are being blamed for undermining their immune systems and even sickening them. A boarding facility might not be knowledgeable and sophisticated enough to understand how over-vaccination doesn’t protect animals but can harm them – but a pet insurance company owned by a veterinarian who is up on everything would not be a problem!

Tracie

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Do Outdoor Cats Ned Vaccinations?

Thursday, February 5th, 2009

This would be a good question – if cats who went outside really had different immune systems than those indoors! Even though most of you know I have to say keep all kitties inside if you value their lives, in any case the answer about immunizations is the same: no routine vaccinations without checking to see if the cat is already immune!

Hi Tracie – Just saw the Martha Stewart show in January where you said annual vaccinations are unnecessary. I have a 1 1/2 year old who likes to go outside, should he have annual rabies, FVRCP and FeLV vaccinations?

Please help, Nital

The first thing I’d beg you to do is realize that your cats are in danger of losing their lives every day you let them outdoors. Predators, other cats, dogs, and especially cars reduce the life expectancy to only 3 years old for cats allowed outside. But even if you decide to still take that risk, you need to get their blood titer levels checked, just like the other answers on my blog. If your cats are immune, they are immune – more vaccinations won’t change that. However there are so many other dangers outside – even abscesses from wilder cats who bite or scratch them – that I’ll ask you again to please shut that door and keep them on ht inside of it!

Tracie

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Good Vet in Arizona?

Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009

Hi Tracie;

I called in and spoke to you on air the other day and you suggested that I write to you and you would be able to assist me in finding a vet that will clean my dogs teeth without insisting that I re-vaccinate them. They have all of their adult shots and I feel that they don’t need any more vaccinations, other then rabies, of course.

I live in Camp Verde, AZ and am close to Cottonwood, AZ or Sedona AZ. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Meanwhile, I’ll just keep brushing their teeth!!

I never miss you when you are on air. you’ve been a great help for myself and my husband when it comes to caring for our 3 dogs, 3 cats and pet cow. I wish you were a practicing vet in our area. They just don’t make them like you up here!

Thank you so much
Joan

Hi, Joan – So glad you followed up. It’s so nice to continue a connection in writing. I just gave this advice to a lady in salt Lake city, so here goes: the truth is that any good vet should know that their own member organization, the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) changed their old recommendations many years ago from yearly vaccinations to every three years. Feel free to tell any vet that who is even mentioning yearly shots! The motto of my radio shows is no further vaccinations after puppy or kitten shots – a really well educated vet knows that instead of doing ANY vaccinations it is better to check a dog’s blood titer level to see whether his body has developed immunity against that disease. To find a vet who is current on this you can either look for a holistic vet in your area (their member organization is linked on my website under “useful links” to see who is in your neighborhood) and if not, just start calling vet clinics and asking on the phone: “I want to come to your clinic but I need to know whether the doctor(s) would respect my decision not to vaccinate my dog?”

Thanks for the kind words – it means more than you can know. I put my heart out to each and every listener and when you feel that love and concern it makes it all worthwhile.

Tracie

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A Good Vet in Salt Lake City?

Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009

I am so pleased when a listener like Becky takes the time to look for a vet who will use the most up-to-date health decisions for her little dog.

I live in Salt Lake City, Utah. Do you know of a vet that does not require me to give my Shitzu shots yearly? What do you think about giving heart worm pill monthly?

Thanks for your help!!
Becky

Hey Becky – The truth is that any good vet should know that their own member organization, the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) changed their old recommendations many years ago from yearly vaccinations to every three years. But no more vaccinations is the motto of my radio shows. A really well educated vets knows that instead of doing ANY vaccinations it is better to check a dog’s blood titer level to see whether his body has developed immunity against that disease. If it has then vaccinations can be eliminated. To find a vet who is current on this you can either look for a holistic vet in your area (their member organization is linked on my website to see who is in your neighborhood) and if not, just start calling vet clinics and asking on the phone: “I want to come to your clinic but I need to know whether the doctor(s) would respect my decision not to vaccinate my dog?” As for the heartworm tablet that is very important and you must use it monthly – if you ever forget or stop you must have his blood re-checked before going back on the medication. It is not an injection and it prevents this potentially fatal disease.

Tracie
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To Vaccinate Grown Dogs & Cats Or Not? NOT!!

Saturday, January 24th, 2009

I was gratified that people really listened to the advice I gave in the “Ask Tracie” segment when I came on Martha’s TV show January 16th (view my two segments on the show here). Some people were confused about my firm advice not to constantly re-vaccinate adult dogs and cats – which has been the correct healthy advice conscientious vets have given for quite some time. The reason NOT to constantly revaccinate is that continually bombarding an animal’s immune system with an illness to which it already has immunity (if it got the two sets of puppy or kitten shots) can lead to cancer and generally undermines the pet’s immune system.

Imagine if we had to have German Measles boosters every year – or smallpox – or any of the childhood diseases to which we were immunized as children? It makes no sense! Our bodies – and those of our animal family members – have a cellular memory of having been vaccinated young against these diseases. They carry that protection for life. It has been YEARS since the American Veterinary Medical Association changed their recommendation form yearly to every 3-year vaccinations, so yearly vaccinating is already an out-of-date practice that NO well-informed vet should be doing. But beyond that, there is no medical or logical reason to vaccinate an adult dog or cat every three years, either. Instead, you check the blood levels of immunity with a “blood titer” test every year until the animal is about 5 years old (to be super-safe) and then no need to check again, you’re good to go! Dr. Marty Goldstein, Martha’s own holistic vet – who has his own show on Martha’s channel of Sirius/XM (“Ask Martha’s Vet” on Monday nights) – recently had the brilliant research vet Dr. Jean Dodds on his show on the topic of vaccinations. Their recommendation was the same as mine: give the first kitten or puppy shots at around 8-9 weeks, then the second set around 12-14 weeks but NEVER both the Parvo and distemper in one shot, which is what vets usually do for peoples’ convenience. It’s too much of an assault on a little creature’s system – demand shots that are separated. Then you’ll get a rabies shot later – and continue getting them as required by law in your state, either every year (which is horrible for the animal) or every 3 years, which Dr. Dodds is in the middle of proving is way too often, as well. Her “Rabies Challenge Fund” is testing a 5-year vaccine to show it is effective and then they will study a 7 year rabies vaccine, so that the laws can all be changed to protect society but also protect our pets’ own health.

Here are some of the emails I got after the show – I hope the above answers you all! And thanks for checking in, it’s great to know you’re out and really listening!

HANK wrote: I saw you on Martha Stewart today and you mentioned that cats and dogs should only have 1 vaccination. Do you mean Rabies and Distemper also? And if it’s rabies — why do law enforcers insist that your pets get vaccinated regularly. I enjoy seeing you on all the shows. Thank you.

CAROLYN in North Carolina wrote: I saw you on Martha Stewart yesterday and would like you to clarify the fact that cats do not need vaccinations after a certain age. Does this include rabies? I have one indoor and one indoor/outdoor kitty so shouldn’t the one that goes outside get a regular rabies shot?

BRANDY wrote: So, I’m just wondering why you think you know more than a veterinarian. If they recommend vaccinating yearly, then they probably have a good reason (and a lot of scientific research) for doing so. Is there something you know that veterinarians don’t? Thank you so much for your response.

MARIA wrote: I totally agree with you about cats getting inoculated. I don’t want it at all. In Pennsylvania it is mandatory but in New Jersey I don’t know. I would like to get a copy of what you said about inoculating cats. If it is possible can you send me a copy? I would greatly appreciate it.

UPDATE: Update: More On Purebred Cats On Martha Stewart TV Show

I was astonished to get this letter from Gem, who thought the cats I was showing on Martha’s TV show might be for sale. Here’s what she wrote:

Hi Tracie: I am inquiring if the Maine Coon cat you had on Martha today is for sale?

Our Maine coon passed away and it is a sad story. we adopted him from the local shelter, the SPCA.. We have a beautiful farm in New York and would love another big friend.

Thank You from Gem

I wrote Gem back:

I’m so sorry for your loss. It’s so hard to lose the four-legged beauties who share our lives.

NO! Tigger was not “for sale” (he’s actually the cat of the actor Chazz Palmintieri, whose beautiful wife Gianna brought him all the way into New York City for the show – they are clients of Dr Marty Goldstein, whose radio show “Ask Martha’s Vet” is on Martha’s channel on Monday nights).

None of the kitties were for sale, they are all beloved family members, including Martha’s new cat Frost, whom she has just adopted from the Animal Rescue Fund of the Hamptons (ARF). I always advocate that people find a pet for themselves by first going to their local shelter, as you did when you found your first Maine Coon cat. Go to www.Petfinder.com – put in your zip code and (in your case write in Maine Coon cat) and you will see any shelters near you that have a Maine Coon for adoption. Over 30% of all animals at shelters are purebred so the chance of finding what you’re looking for is pretty good. Let me know what you find – and send me a photo to post on my website and call into the show Wednesday a nights with any questions. My website www.TracieHotchner.com tell you all you need to know.

Thanks for getting in touch.

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Another Anti-Vaccination Story

Friday, January 23rd, 2009

On one of my recent Daily Tips on Dogster I wrote about the importance of being on the same wavelength with your vet about essential topics. So I posed a thank you to Chi Rocks for pointing out that vaccinations are one of the hot button topics between folks and their vets. The smartest integrative vets have been saying for years that NO routine vaccinations are necessary after puppy shots but other doctors keep on pushing the shots. For a little one like yours, the assault on the immune system is overwhelming. I salute you for realizing what was right for her and standing up to your vet – and I assume ultimately finding one with a more up-to-date understanding of what’s best for the pooch. Here’s what she wrote:

This is soooo true! My (former) vet and I could not come to a meeting of the minds about vaccinations. She wanted to (and did at first) vaccinate against everything for which a vaccine existed. My chi had horrible side effects. She’s also strictly an indoor dog who is never boarded or professionally groomed or even taken to a dog park. I’m disabled and she’s my constant companion. When I approached the vet about no further vaccinations except the legally required ones, she became very defensive and even insulting. I advise others to shop around for a vet with whom you can communicate your pet’s individual needs rather than one who treats all animals in an assembly line fashion. Good tip today, Dogster!